"skype abstract transmission"

I've got michael held remotely



the room is 6 x 6 x 6

measuring the room

I can't hear melbourne still

it's all feedbacky they just turn out digital


no we killed the video connection it was dropping out

we have to be quiet

now how do we make you see us?

wooohooo, I got skype video now, can I see you thru that?

so berlin got projetor, webcam, computer

aha yes, I logged on here first as the wifi in my room disappered today annd had to make coffeeeeeee first

when somaya is online we can do it

great!

that works huh?

melbourne 'we can't hear katie'

'it's like nasa: this is ground control to major tom'

this really isn't working, we're losing about half of each sentence

can we do it in text?

yeah we can do it with text
it'll be clearer
let's drop this connection

katie are you still there?
I can't hear everything but text is fine, I heard that bit

I'll start a group chat with everyone

you're taking minutes

sorry we have had to drop video back

then audio back

ok

and now we are back to text


....now the room has gone quiet. everyone is typing

noticing that the person with the webcam or laptop tends to take control of the conversation

and start giving summary orders to the other participants when another tangent arises, trying to bring them back to order

disorder....

chaos....

I feel like we are all scattered today

you're so far away, doesn't anybody stay in one place anymore...

somehow the presence of 7 people together in one space made the conversation very chaotic and more tangents than direction... it's more focused today now we are all scattered, from berlin to melb to syd to bris to perth

today's dynamic really pushes us into the networked displaced environment

i thought it could be done quickly and might lead elsewhere -be extended

we could just watch a moment with miriam in bg, tanya on bench next to her and michael riding the bike

then the powercord fell out and the screen went blank

miriam is now taping it in with electrical tape from rob

don't quite understand. but. I found some code that lets us put in a call us on skype link. don't know what we can do with it but...

that sounds like fun, we can have random phone-ins

thought you'd like it. sounds like hell to me.

you know I like elements of chaos

what's going on in the background in sydney... melb... and side chat you wanna share?

hello brisbane and perth?

and brisbane and perth sorry

we were just talking about that

where are they?

Freaky

where the bloody hell are you?


our webcam not working with skype

ah, text from somaya, she is on her way now

hi everyone - massive apologies from me

hey som, do you have webcam there?

and projector?

no neither

am at home

ok, so they are with miriam who is at the airport I believe

AND WHAT TIME DO YOU CALL THIS??

hehe

well exactly

katie do you know if miriam was going to be 'here' after picking up ben? not likely, I guess!

i'm very sorry

it's ok, we don't appear to have any of the gear needed to make this test at this moment

no problems here

been going to bed too late

i organised with miriam for us both to be at the gallery to do the test

so no gear in berlin?

so much for the streamlined, focused skype meeting :)

and neither of us are there

projector/ webcam

i know, i know

I'm in the space and could make myself into ahuman projector webcam

dudes

ok

I know!


I've been here since 9

is the projector in the space jodi??

no

i couldn't find it last nite

it's all back at miriam's as far as I know

with the webcam

its all a problem

oh dear

so we cant do it now - tomorrow?

including the fact my reading glasses are in the studio

that sux

lets move on then

?


about the script

yep?

sorry - only getting the sentence now - my brain is too broken

great

made a thread called Transit actions

okay

I've started sending emails out about which ideas correspond as people are getting overwhelmed by the forum.

I'm checking out of this skype chat. need to go do some work as I can't take anymore

i'm getting overwhelmed with emails

soooorrrreeee

bye, have fune!!

fun

so what time 4 berliners/austs??

think it was sun eve aust/sun morn berlin

can anyone cofirm time?

no no

time exatly?


9pm?

maybe we can charge an entrance fee - thatd make us poor berliner artists happy

melbs time

sun morning for berlino

11am

i can be up by that time

9pm here

i know it's tough, but

9 is challenging me tho

i'll buy that for a dollar

gotta have priorities

9pm/11am it is

9pm melb = 11am berlin

thanks benny


with equipment that works..

nice

thats always the question

none of the gear is great exactly

i have hope

it's gonna be speed death metal improv here

we can do it

wow

great

amen

theres some noisy synth in there

ohhhhh nice

last 2 min is me walking aroung unplugging leads

I got some great moving recording the other night while cycling to gorki park

trams going past in binaural mikes, should be fun... very heavy metal

how do you not get wind noise?

will complement the synths

ah binaural

who said I don't get wind noise? muffled a little by big blue hat

i thought we do the spaces?


ducroz is coming to berlin for transmediale

could get him on the case

who?

ducroz is a wiz

thats if hes keen

we make him keen...

cool man!

can i bribe with beers??

(beer)

(cash)

that second one...

so the problem is not enough computers?

well none of us have any

yes beers should be ok

yeah i know

cos it could just run off a computer


use your charme

i only have 1 laptop to use - which is needed for the stitching cities thing

charm

hasn't managed to get me any paid work in berlin so far...

i think offers of beer rather than my sketchy charm seems more likely

berlin is hard indeed

oh oh oh - taht'd be great

hopefully one lucky, so no worries about the 2 things, i'm a bit unclear about the bookshelf....

i think we stick things on there

like the monitors

and i was thinking for the "performance"


?

to re-enact michaels scripts live

?

nice idea som

yep - authoring involved

in front of the screen/projection?

yes

confused

so it can be stitched into the cities

soryr

paint the picture

im too sleep deprived...

start painting now...

common


ftp coming up

switching sentences again...

what i need from melbs is a laptop there and a webcam to do streaming broadcast - running quicktime broadcast software

but i need to do test here

ok am back dancing?

yep


wont run on pc tho

er - maybe i should check that before i come out with such statements

i'm out for a bit, back soon

ok tj enthusiastic - brb

still works the same

me

we dont have a webcam in berlin - that will run from my mac

so i might have to use video camera

brb

hey katie!!!!!!!!!!!

im really cold...

and another thing - i can install (hmmm...do battle with the wiki on) a plugin so that we can use mov files embedded not just flash...

tahtd be great

hm

so annoying

that i dont have a machine with inbuilt

still better than mediawiki which used its own media format...

yeh right

pc the peoples comuter

webcams 99c

i have quicktime embedded code from the library website

made by children

webcam for everyone

not just the rich

katie - sorry - i confused

somaya - be on later for ftp?

gotta go

ok - ftp latero

thanks

see y'all


mp - sumu and i going to shoot for you sat morning

thanks

tops!

thanks

can we use skype?

not ideal

can we try the streaming thing

but we got the gear

skype gear??

hang on im confused

so am i

streaming is for

stitching cities

stitching?

aha

can we use a dv cam?

yeah

oooooooooooooh

thats what i gonna use here

ok

hold on!

any camera plugged in should work with it

so we don't need to get a webcam for sumu mac? we can use his dv cam?

but i gotta install and test b4 i can give u advice

yeah

dv cams all round

ok we try this on sunday too

?

ok, we should try this michael

yep

top shit

i'll have done it by end of today

ok we try tomorrow

so will be able to give info i hope

ehat you doing tomorrow somaya

so those performances (waiting for video)- were they on the night of the exhibition - are people in melbs going ot be up at 5am to continue the conversation, or are these for other days until the 5th?

you guys, can you bring a basketball on sunday>

basketball????

brb

i can bring a hüpfball if you know what i mean

what time sunday?

11am your time

we are currently live call with katie

be back

back

anybody here?

hi

hi miri

hi

sorry for being late but no one told me about the test before last night

you got the gear?

we need to send appointment mails out

i am at home

i'm overwhelmed by mail

gear is here but here is not gallery lets stick with sunday

i am overwhlemed by skype

ok..

i think it's really important to have all possible gear at the gallery on sunday

and record our tests

which will serve as backup

also

including a basketball

where on earth do we get a basketball from?

thats why you got the frames and all

the task bar?

?

if there is laptop we can do yousentit ftp, so you have the file saved on computer

thats why you got the frames and all

taskbar?

me go toilet..... brb

yeah, it really needs to be saved on someones computer. yes, the taskbar and bits from my computer in the projection- thats why we need to save it. we can even burn a dvd and play it from dvd player

night miri

bye miri

are you going miriam?

bye see you in the library sometime

all geared up next time

by tj enjoy your intoxication

yes i will. we can take some skype conversaitons apart

you off too?

going now, for real!

let's call it a day

ok. virtual matchmaking here we come.

match me, baby

intoxication

huepfball

bye

bye tj

(blush)

night tj


you got all the projects and stuff set up - we have a camera but no cable for the projector. none in syd to be found

what about from your kettle?

power is fine its the weird not quite vga thing that's on it

oh bummer - what about svideo?

we could go one way though and record. and then we have more footage yeah but no luck getting it into the laptop...

what about you send your room to berlin, berlin projects and sends to us, we project and video it

then you dont need projector

?

ok that works.

not here

niiiiiiiiiiiiiice

we got the camera working

we got video though. but only half hour so maybe we should ignore the tech

tomorrow also bad for sumu and me

we just have to try it another time.

i can give u good news tho

yay

need some good news

i'm going to do a test today with broadcasting quicktime streams

?

hang on

cool!

have to find long distance glasses - they might help a bit - brb

for sound or video

or both?

ok

hey jodi after ou add a layer where do we send?

have been in contact with the guy who hosts my website in canb

that's great som!

and other good news somaya - we can install the php software on our serveer. no cost. I've left messages with a few linux / server people in the hope they will do it for us

lets talk quicktime steream

if i setup the broadcast here then he will be able to send out the stream from the server there

to the web

cool, will post it upa nd let you know smoo

round the world and back.. and back again som?

and if its quicktime streaming then u can pick it up

once i do that test

and how do we get our broaadcast up?

we use this for

webcams?

then maybe we can run multiple live streams - and you broadcast to

sleep surveillance?

aha

webcams or anyother thing

so people anywhere can tune in?

hold on... i'm too blind to see this chat move so quickly

as well as being projected into various spaces?

lynda has surveillance cameras that we wanted to have watch us sleep

yes both

cooooooool!

sounds great!

yeah

a little big brother....

but i got to do the test first

as you sleep?

yep

but the room is still full of things like couches tables plants etc etc

i took it off the site, cos it's misleading and confusing and does not look right

so we had to make do

i like the idea that the netowrk compresses time and space, but the world is round and we need to sleep

test was ok except angles and taskbar

it was very basic test

of course

it's ok

if there is stuf in the room just leave it there

?

it was the best we could do at the time

no we got to move all the stuff

no i understand, not ok

blocked out stuff is ok as long as angles are right

yes, katie, that's a nice angle..

yes

(the world being round)

jodi.... can we put all the stuff in your room

you can lock it in those red cabinets

the other small problem we might have is that we can't get the projection too large

cause the room isn't long/big enough

can we play with scale?

so if we line it up with the floor

scale is based on room size

possibly, but people don't shrink

what about small perspective in the bookcase?

make a picture of the wall and project into the frame of that...

yeah, think that could work

so melbourne is projected into the bookcase? tiny wonka like

i guess would work if berlin was start and end point

the people in berlin will be giants

except we gonna have same lining up problems

we can play with the foreshortening in the video

i think its best how it is

wonka vision!

but it might not be full wall size

ie, do initial recording of a space and have the resulted stitch on a monitor

if each recording is progressivly bigger it will work

we could do it onto opp wall, which is smaller and has door in centre

and the sydney room is really high - hard to get into the camera

having probs with the 3rd

yeah, feel free to remix yourself too

i'll ftp them to the dropbox - for michael - fuller res stylee

so the endpoint of these will be 1 monitor each city

?

o yeah - ftp

is that easy?

can we have a short ftplesson?

and then if i get a chance will re-render a supercompressed version to archive.org

mayhaps

who is your assigned ftp person?

or get it to stream from my website

think there was one per city

katie did

michael is melbs ftp person

michael in melbs, me here


katie will do syd

aha, he needs a lesson then!

if not time somaya i can figure it

yep

tis easy

even i worked it out

u and i should hook up on our own skype chat quickly and then we can sort it out - outside the meeting

so, we lose katie and sumu in 15 minutes, is there anything we need to discuss while you're still here?

u on a PC or mac??

we have speakers?

once rob's speakers arrive

(d)

no we got no gear here

we're all spending so much time on skype and reading emails and writing in forums that there

is no sound being made.....

i guess we can edit stuff out if it doesnt work

yep

I think it will be great

still - there is a question that hasn't been answered for me

am going to post 5 sound files from rob this morning

too much sound going on for a small space??

and then the ones I recorded later today

who gonna master all the vid to dvd

in berlin

TJ, this is what I have been trying to encourage people to discuss

good question

good question

2 of the pieces are very discrete and not audible in the room

one will be through radios

one will be in toilet

discrete ones through headphones

hommage to sumu

then we have 3 more to fit onto the ambient speakers - plus the toiliet and subway

?

yeah, head phones sounds reasonable?

which ones in headphones?

toilet/subway is one space actually

room sound

mm

wont work any other way?

don't think we have to use headphones tho, more plan how the sound is designed for the installation between piecs

even 1 sound piece plus people is hard?

ype

would like to stay away from putting it in headphones, but if that's the best option then we may have to

ok

yep

yes, but they can bleed in a bit, think that would be quite nice the cross over

i trust you

we'll play with it and call you so you can listen in skype!

?

and say, no a bit more to the left...

can melbs tell me if - when u ride the trains in the underground - that the announce the places/locations...

lol

not all the time

a little more to the porcelain

lol

under the sink

do u know when they announce...?

hmm

traions


i'm happy to have somethin in my bag that michael gives me, but i'm not experienced with sound

so i can have something on me for the chance of announcements

that'd be great

sound is simple

u just turn it on

next couple days, michael? possible?

huhuuu

hold the mic very still

he's not payin attention

so u dont get noise from hands/ clothing etc etc

ok

then turn off

peeps will still look at u funny tho i expect

michael says yes

its sorted

if thats not possible

we got lyndas zoom h4

ahh perfect

easy peay

peasy

and then i get someone in syd to do the same there

my first sound piece!!!

yay

yay

i like that we getting people outta their comfort zones

ok, lots of sound

and 2 video things? or did i miss something

comfort schmomfort

mm

not sure how many vid things

altho the script by michael works really well

such a good starting point

stitched city, michaels script

ah yep

what else?

wondering if we can tie them in

i think thats all the video we gonna do

into one?

also the video works of text in the monitors in the library

or maybe just have them overlap

which miriam is planning

oh yeah

forgot about that one

it's hard to keep everything in mind all at once I'm finding

so many different threads

can we have a monitor playing mp's thing in the background if the sticked cities thing?

we need lots of monitors and dvd players huh

fill me in on the text library?

overlap?

syliva may also have other video plans